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The Mindful Medical Learner initiative interviews physicians across the field about mindfulness and how it relates to their practice. Unique experts, course leaders, and mindfulness advocates - we’re bringing them all to our circle! We are a team of medical learners who have come together to offer meditation and mindfulness-based resources to our colleagues – created by learners, for learners. This initiative is being done in collaboration with the McGill WELL Office, which seeks to support learners throughout their training by creating, promoting and sustaining a culture of wellness and resilience. Research shows that mindfulness-based practices can be hugely beneficial for mental well-being. This is particularly pertinent for medical trainees who are consistently operating in high-stress environments. We hope to create a community around mindfulness and meditation and promote awareness about the role that it can play on both a personal and professional level.
Episodes

Sunday Nov 14, 2021
014 | Navigating Failure in Medicine with Dr. Juliana Mahood
Sunday Nov 14, 2021
Sunday Nov 14, 2021
Juliana Mahood is Montreal-based McGill University-affiliated family physician who originally completed her medical education at McGill. She is extensively engaged in the mentorship and guidance of medical students at McGill university, particularly through her role as an Osler fellow, where she mentors 5 medical students throughout the students’ 4 years of training.
We discuss:
0:12 – Introduction
00:38 – What Dr. Mahood does at McGill University and Saint Mary’s Hospital
1:05 – What led Dr. Mahood to pursue medicine and to be where she is today
3:40 – How Dr. Mahood chose Family Medicine as a specific career path
5:04 – The inspiration for mentoring medical students
8:25 – An important moment of failure in medical school, and its key lessons
15:20 – Strategies for staying well mentally and physically, as a medical professional
20:16 – The role of mindfulness in medicine
25:02 – Developing mindfulness in everyday life outside of the medical environment
30:16 – The role of hobbies and extracurricular interests in having a healthylifestyle
34:34 – Concluding remarks

Monday Sep 20, 2021
Monday Sep 20, 2021
Dr. Golda Tradounsky is a family and palliative care physician who oversees care for patients and their families as the Head of the Palliative Care Services at Mount Sinai Hospital Montreal. She was previously the Director of Education for Palliative Care McGill and she currently serves as the Director of Research in palliative care at Mount Sinai. She is passionate about her palliative care practice and mentoring residents and medical students.
00:12 – Introduction
00:27 – What Dr. Golda does at McGill University and Mount Sinai Hospital
04:10 – Why Dr. Golda chose to pursue family medicine and palliative care
10:05 – Defining palliative care and its importance
15:44 – The importance of personal wellness as medical providers
24:24 – How to maintain physical and psychological wellness
31:44 – Defining grief and how to cope with it
39:59 – Communicating about grief
47:28 – Advice for facing loss in life
50:58 – Final thoughts and what students entering palliative care should know

Tuesday Jul 06, 2021
012 | Whole Person Care and Mindful Medical Practice with Dr. Mark Smilovitch
Tuesday Jul 06, 2021
Tuesday Jul 06, 2021
Dr. Mark Smilovitch is a Cardiologist and Associate Professor in the Faculty of Medicine at McGill University. His involvements in medical education at McGill are not limited to contributions to the physicianship program, professionalism, Whole Person Care and Mindful Medical Practice (MMP).
In this episode of the podcast, we discuss:
00:50 Introduction – Dr. Smilovitch’s professional life
2:10 How Dr. Smilovitch became interested in mindfulness
3:20 Dr. Smilovitch’s definition of mindfulness
4:40 Informal and formal meditation practices that Dr. Smilovitch engages in such as morning pages by Julia Cameron and improv
8:00 Improvisation and mindfulness
11:10 Mindfulness and mcgill medicine
14:05 The Mindful Medical Practice Course and how it has been adapted to the pandemic
18:18 Mindfulness as a clinical competence
22:20 Exercises done in the MMP course
25:15 Whole person care and mindfulness
28:00 Healing and the experience of illness in medicine
30:00 Examples of when mindfulness in patient interactions
34:00 Dr. Smilovitch’s personal practice during the pandemic
38:80 Final thoughts from The House of God by Samuel Shem

Monday May 24, 2021
Monday May 24, 2021
Bienvenue à notre deuxième partie de notre balado avec Léa Levert-Gagnon. Aujourd’hui, nous discutons les notions d’usure d’empathie et de traumatisme vicariant, comment le yoga peut nous en protéger, et bien plus encore… Pour nos nouveaux auditeurs, n’oubliez pas d’écouter la première partie de notre conversation avec Léa sur notre site web Mindful Medical Learner!
Léa est la conseillère en bien-être du Bureau SOURCES (WELL office) de la Faculté de médecine et des sciences de la santé de l’Université McGill, Campus Outaouais. Après un baccalauréat en psychologie de l’Université d'Ottawa, elle a ensuite poursuivi sa maîtrise en Counselling et Spiritualité à l’Université Saint-Paul. En tant que membre de l'Ordre des psychothérapeutes autorisés de l'Ontario, Léa possède une expertise de soutien aux individus qui vivent de l’anxiété, de la dépression, des difficultés relationnelles, le perfectionnisme, les difficultés académiques, le deuil, les traumatismes et les questionnements au niveau de l’identité.
Lors de sa maîtrise, elle a étudié le rôle du yoga et de la pleine conscience dans la prévention de la fatigue de compassion et du traumatisme vicariant.
Léa adopte une approche de type intégrative et une vision holistique centrée sur les besoins de ses clients. Dans cette démarche, Léa vise à aider ses clients à découvrir leurs propres ressources et à développer des outils afin d’être plus créatifs et flexibles dans leurs façons de s’adapter aux différents obstacles de la vie.
Dans cette deuxième partie de notre balado, nous discutons:
- Fatigue de compassion et trauma vicariant… Qu’est-ce que ça signifie? (00:36)
- Survol de l’histoire des termes (01:15)
- Fatigue de compassion: un terme envoyé à la retraite! (03:45)
- Usure d’empathie (04:06)
- Traumatisme vicariant (09:23)
- Notre expérience en médecine (10:44)
- Mémoire de maîtrise: Le yoga, un protecteur contre l’usure d’empathie? (15:51)
- Leçons et résultats (19:56)
- Le Yoga et son lien avec la pleine conscience (22:16)
- Yoga = Union (24:43)
- Reconnaître ces syndromes chez nous-mêmes, ça peut être difficile... (31:16)
- Manque de connexion avec soi (32:21)
- Contexte de pandémie (34:31)
- Changement de rotations et d’équipes de travail (35:55)
- Quelques exemples d’usure d’empathie (40:51)
- Comment “soigner” l’usure d’empathie (44:16)
- 1) Accepter la réalité qu’on n’est pas à notre meilleur en ce moment (45:31)
- 2) Se traiter de la même façon qu’on traiterait un patient, un meilleur ami, un conjoint, un enfant (46:11)
- 3) Pleine conscience, yoga, auto-compassion, bonnes habitudes de vie…
- 4) Création de frontières entre travail et vie personnelle (47:25)
- Exemples de rituels: marche, activité planifiée (48:52)
- 5) Attention à ce à quoi on s’expose à l’extérieur du milieu de travail (47:53)
- Impact de la pandémie sur nos collègues (53:06)
- Quelques derniers conseils (58:39)
- Yoga!
- Pleine conscience
- Auto-compassion et gratitude
- Futurs projets de Léa (1:01:21)

Monday Apr 05, 2021
010 | Prendre Soin de Notre Outil de Travail avec Léa Levert-Gagnon
Monday Apr 05, 2021
Monday Apr 05, 2021
Léa est la conseillère en bien-être du Bureau SOURCES de la Faculté de médecine et des sciences de la santé de l’Université McGill, Campus Outaouais. Après un baccalauréat en psychologie de l’Université d'Ottawa, elle a ensuite poursuivi sa maîtrise en Counselling et Spiritualité à l’Université Saint-Paul. En tant que membre de l'Ordre des psychothérapeutes autorisés de l'Ontario, Léa possède une expertise de soutien aux individus qui vivent de l’anxiété, de la dépression, des difficultés relationnelles, le perfectionnisme, les difficultés académiques, le deuil, les traumatismes et les questionnements au niveau de l’identité.
Lors de sa maîtrise, elle a étudié le rôle du yoga et de la pleine conscience dans la prévention de la fatigue de compassion et du traumatisme vicariant.
Léa adopte une approche de type intégrative et une vision holistique centrée sur les besoins de ses clients. Dans cette démarche, Léa vise à aider ses clients à découvrir leurs propres ressources et à développer des outils afin d’être plus créatifs et flexibles dans leurs façons de s’adapter aux différents obstacles de la vie.
Nous discutons:
- Un peu plus sur Léa (02:32)
- Pourquoi travailler avec des étudiants et résidents en médecine? (6:57)
- La découverte de la pleine conscience et de l’importance du bien-être pour Léa (12:21)
- Impact de l’anxiété de performance sur notre relation avec patient/client, et comment la pleine conscience peut aider à prioriser le savoir-être plutôt que le savoir-faire (14:41)
- Définition de la pleine conscience, selon Léa (20:41)
- Intention, Attitude, Non-identification
- “Mindfulness” versus “Mind-emptiness”
- Impact de la pleine conscience sur les relations thérapeutiques avec étudiants et résidents (25:11)
- Une meilleure présence authentique lors des rencontres, permettant des liens plus serrés
- “Notre premier outil de travail, c’est notre propre personne, l’être humain qu’on est. La pleine conscience nous aide à prendre soin de notre outil de travail.” (27:31)
- La capacité naturelle d’empathie de l’être humain (29:26)
- Rôle de la pleine conscience dans le bien-être des étudiants et résidents (31:21)
- Comparaison, anxiété de performance, mode “fight or flight”... Tout cela ne nous permet pas de profiter de notre expérience en médecine et d’en apprendre.
- La pleine conscience nous ramène vers le moment présent, nous permettant de porter attention à l’expérience vécue en médecine et avec notre patient, et d’y prendre plaisir!
- Approches thérapeutiques basées sur la pleine conscience (39:31)
- ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy - Thérapie d'acceptation et d’engagement) (40:21)
- Les axes de l’ACT, dont la pleine conscience et la défusion cognitive (46:34)
- Exemples d’ACT et d’exercices qu’on peut faire (51:26)
- Exercice de visualisation que vous pouvez faire avec nous! (57:30)

Monday Feb 22, 2021
Monday Feb 22, 2021
Derek is a mental health therapist based in Montreal, Quebec. He completed his undergraduate training at Concordia and went on to receive a masters degree in Counselling psychology from Yorkville University. Derek has a particular focus on integrative harm reduction approaches for substance misuse and behavioural addictions.
We discuss:
- The substance use and addiction landscape that Derek sees in his practice and treatment centre (3:00)
- Defining important terms: substance misuse and substance abuse and addiction (4:20)
- Defining behavioural addiction (6:15)
- Derek’s path to becoming a mental health therapist (8:50)
- How Derek got involved with populations who use substances (10:35)
- How Derek started incorporating mindfulness into his professional practice (13:00)
- Selecting patients for Mindfulness-based interventions (15:14)
- Specific treatments for patients being treated for substance use and how to introduce it to patients (18:05)
- Why Mindfulness based techniques work with this patient population (20:00)
- Challenges when using mindfulness-based tools with this population (22:30)
- What future clinicians should know about this population (25:10)
- The harms of labelling patients as drug seeking and how we should manage this (27:45)
- How patients access substance use counseling (31:20)
- Substance use amongst medical students (33:40)

Thursday Jan 21, 2021
Thursday Jan 21, 2021
Dr. Abraham Fuks served as Dean of the Faculty of Medicine at McGill from 1995 to 2006. He was trained at McGill, specializing in internal medicine and clinical immunology, with postdoc training at Harvard in the fields of immunogenetics and histocompatibility antigens. Dr. Fuks’ research explores the language of medicine and its metaphoric structure, notably the impact of language on the physician-patient relationship. He was recently named to the Order of Canada for his many contributions to the advancement of Canadian medical research, education and scholarship.

Sunday Dec 20, 2020
007 | Decentering with Mindfulness to Manage Anxiety with Dr. Joe Flanders
Sunday Dec 20, 2020
Sunday Dec 20, 2020
Dr. Joe Flanders is a clinical psychologist who obtained his PhD in Clinical Psychology from McGill University and completed a postdoctoral fellowship at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. He is also an assistant professor in the McGill University Psychology Department and the founder and director of Mindspace, a well-being organization in Montreal.
In this episode, we dive into the role of mindfulness based interventions for anxiety, practical tips derived from mindfulness that can be used to manage anxiety and why this is all so relevant during the current Covid-19 pandemic!

Sunday Nov 22, 2020
Sunday Nov 22, 2020
Born and raised in Montreal, Dr. Liben graduated from McGill medical school in 1987 and completed a residency in pediatrics and subspecialty fellowship in pediatric critical care at the Montreal Children’s Hospital. He then became the medical director of the pediatric palliative care program in 1995, helping to develop the emerging new field with publications such as the Oxford Textbook of Palliative Care for Children, and bringing the program to its current form as the Pediatric Advanced Care Team (PACT/Palliative Care). He is a full professor of Pediatrics at McGill University and also a faculty member of McGill Programs in Whole Person Care.

Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
005 | Mindfulness for Teens with Dr. Dzung Vo
Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
Dr. Dzung Vo pursued his medical residency in the field of pediatrics and later specialized in adolescent medicine. He works at the British Columbia Children’s Hospital where his clinical and research work revolve around fostering resilience among young adults and strengthening their capacity to overcome adversity. He has developed many mindfulness-based curricula including Mindful Awareness and Resilience Skills for Adolescents (MARS-A) for teens with chronic medical conditions and Mindful Healing for health care professionals. He also plays an active role as a member of the board of directors for the Mindfulness in Education Network (MIEN), a community of educators collaborating on mindful approaches to education for young learners. In this episode we discuss the effects of mindfulness on the developing brain, the general approach to mindfulness for teens, building a therapeutic alliance with young adults and incorporating mindfulness into clinical practise with patients.